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The X-Prize Cup Experience

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Post    Posted on: Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:45 pm
Rxke wrote:
What about... Car races too?

Rocket-propelled, that is. :D

Not kidding, it would make a nice sideshow, dragracing on steroids if you want, and it has its roots in rocketflight too. The first tests w liquid rockets in Europe were done on cars...

I could be a great income of sponsorship, a nice proof of safety/ease of use etc...


are you franklin ratliff :P ? just kidding, i think this is the first good idea involving rocket cars ever to be posted on the forum, and we've had alot of posts on them.

... wtf is with this ip address: 216.87.63.***, it seems that virtually everyone has posted from it. is it some sort of proxy for something?

EDIT: i guess it is, that's weird. sigurd can explain it i'm sure *hint, hint*.
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Post    Posted on: Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:50 am
Thanks for the thumbs-up.

Well... Would it be doable?

Considering this would be a multi-days Cup, and the place having runways,...

But what about regulations (sigh...)

Imagine Armadillo, with their 'invisible flame' going *real fast*
Or Xcor, demonstrating the SS1 engines on the ground...

I think you couldn't really do 2 by 2 races? If one car is behind the other, the exhaust fumes (and arguably flames) would be considered too big a risk? Or would that be part of the thrill?

I thought about racing on the ground, because it is 'easier' to film, and makes sure the sponsors get enough cool pictures of their brandnames on the vehicules' fuselage, much easier than filming a rocket...


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Post    Posted on: Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:32 pm
Rxke wrote:
Thanks for the thumbs-up.

Well... Would it be doable?

Considering this would be a multi-days Cup, and the place having runways,...

But what about regulations (sigh...)

Imagine Armadillo, with their 'invisible flame' going *real fast*
Or Xcor, demonstrating the SS1 engines on the ground...

I think you couldn't really do 2 by 2 races? If one car is behind the other, the exhaust fumes (and arguably flames) would be considered too big a risk? Or would that be part of the thrill?

I thought about racing on the ground, because it is 'easier' to film, and makes sure the sponsors get enough cool pictures of their brandnames on the vehicules' fuselage, much easier than filming a rocket...

The XPrize Cup will be about breaking each other records, so no team has to fly/test at the same time.

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: For the X Prize Cup, teams will compete for cash prizes in each of
: the following five categories:


: * Fastest turn-around time
: * Maximum number of passengers carried in one flight
: * Total number of passengers carried during the entire X Prize Cup
: event
: * Maximum altitude attained
: * Fastest flight time from take-off to landing

: An overall winner, based on total points scored in each competition,
: will also be chosen and awarded the X Prize Cup Trophy, which the
: winner will retain for one year.

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Post    Posted on: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:34 pm
Hal wrote:
<the really cool picture of the X-Cup>


Yeah, we know. The trick is getting it to look like that, with all the lights and signs and (especially) people.

Oh, and since when was Discraft supposed to be that big?

And Rxke: I like the rocket-car idea -- as TerraMrs said, it's the first good idea posted here involving them. Although I'd imagine the races would be one-on-one, due to the heat of the exhaust (jets never fly one directly behind the other in formation for airshows; the rear plane is always at least about fifty feet lower -- otherwise the forward plane's exhaust would melt the rear one's windscreen) and the nature of the sport: if one of the forward cars malfunctions and comes to any kind of stop (much less a sudden one), both of the rear cars are pretty well screwed.

Sigurd: granted that the main events are the actual competitions, but teams can still show off their hardware, and do test demonstrations for "concept vehicles". If nothing else, it'll help fill up otherwise dead time.

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Post    Posted on: Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:23 pm
I really think this is a great idea. Most of the people there will love to see anything that goes really fast ;) Someone should talk to Peter about this and see if we can get it working.

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Post    Posted on: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:43 pm
It probably will be an -additional- legal and paperwork nightmare, though...

I'm European, (hence my seriously less than perfect and confusing sentences, heh...)
so I don't know much about the technicalities of Drag Racing etc. I only know that it is *BIG* sponsor- and televisioncoveragewise...

But *BIG* probably means quite stringent rules/protectionistic stuff regarding who can organize such things etc.
The chicken w/ the golden eggs stuff. You can't have amateurs stealing the limelight, can you?


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Post    Posted on: Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:30 am
Well if nothing else, the jetcars would probably just attract even more people. I know they have a pretty big following down here.

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Post    Posted on: Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:27 pm
and airboats too :)

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Post    Posted on: Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:47 pm
109Ace wrote:
and airboats too :)


Airboats.........


...........In New Mexico......................


...........................Heh.

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Post    Posted on: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:04 am
hehe good point on that one... sand boats maybe? :P

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