Impeller without brake. Propellant VEEG-HEPSY

I love your hair Victor, and who is your tailor?

Very affectionately,
Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez
Email: victor.espinoza.13@hotmail.com
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Thank you JamesG! I had to laugh really hard when I read that!

Victor and I should do the Vegas tour, a la Penn & Teller. He can be the straight man with wide-eyed ideas about antigravity and perpetual motion and I can sarcastically point out why they don't work.

The idea is to absorb air and then expel that same air. This process is repeated constantly because the air will never end.

We can not be without a gas or air which expel for move in the universe. And this video design, provides a good idea to achieve these goals, which is to get as far as possible in outer space.

This model of 8 turbines, works in the following way. See VIDEO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJiyZtTluPM

Very affectionately,
Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez
Email: victor.espinoza.13@hotmail.com
Email: victoreliasespinoza20@hotmail.com

The critical flaw in your idea is that force that you generate by pushing the working fluid (ie:"air") with the turbine is offset by the force that it exerts on the back of the envelope. All you are doing is pushing the air around inside your bag. It is a zero sum game in any close system.

But please try your experiment in real life and post the results. I would love to be proven wrong at the dawn of a new age of propulsion.

But the experiment of inclined Chair works and there is no brake.

EXPERIMENT TWO (2) which checks a bag does not stop the force:





Very affectionately,
Víctor Elias Espinoza Guedez
Email: victor.espinoza.13@hotmail.com
Email: victoreliasespinoza20@hotmail.com

It "works" because the change in your lung's size and the movement of your diaphram changes your center of balance/gravity.

If you were wearing a pair of roller skates and your balloon inflating pushed you around, then you might have a point, but not the chair, that isn't anywhere near proof since it is about as objective as a carnival trick.

I'm already looking forward to some new pictures of the guy in the blue suit wearing rollerskates.

I think I'm starting to understand it a bit, with the air brake at least. You're essentially trying to swim, right? Inflating and deflating those bags will move the craft forward and backward (keeping the centre of gravity the same though), and then you use an air brake to slow down the motion in one direction more than in the other one. That will work, but only in an atmosphere, and it's not going to be nearly efficient enough to get you to space.

It looks like you're spending a lot of time making 3D renders of things that would be much less work to just try in reality. Really, get some cardboard boxes and plastic bags and have a go!

Also, if you're posting in Spanish, please post it as text rather than as an image, so that I can copy-paste it into Google Translate.

I think he thinks that the motion of air, in and out of a bag or round and round thru a turbine in a bag will produce a reactionless thrust. A truly "self-eating sandwich".

Theory

The idea is to absorb air and then expel that same air. This process is repeated constantly because the air will never end.

We can not be without a gas or air which expel for move in the universe. And this video design, provides a good idea to achieve these goals, which is to get as far as possible in outer space.

This model of 8 turbines, works in the following way. See VIDEO:



Experiment

You just have to: blowing and vacuuming, blowing and sucking.





Video

You just have to: blowing and vacuuming, blowing and sucking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJiyZtTluPM

Patent pending. Today 25 October 2013

The bag inflates and deflates



Very affectionately,
Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez
Email: victor.espinoza.13@hotmail.com
Email: victoreliasespinoza20@hotmail.com

From what I can work out (since Victor needs a translator, not just any language differences) is he's trying to suggest that you could create a "perpetual energy" device by ejecting compressed air through a turbine, capturing it after it's been used, re-compressing it on the other side of the turbine and then ejecting back the other way to repeat the same capture, re-compress and eject method.

(In essence it's a similar concept to a piston engine, however instead of combustion he's using compression and instead of piston assembly he's using a turbine.)

The problem with his current model is it violates a number of physics laws (Notibly a number of Newtonian Laws) that aren't just written by boffins in white labcoats, they are actual universal laws which the universe functions to, so they aren't easily bent or broken.

People have already stated where Victors "Propellant VEEG" fails before he even does a test, for instance Capturing an ejected propellant after it's been through a turbine and re-pressurising it is going to cost energy, probably more than what is made from turning the turbine.

There is then the point about the Orifice used for ejecting a propellant stream, the size of the orifice has an effect on the efficiency of how much pressure can be pushed through it, if it's too small then it won't be a high enough volume to push a turbine, if it's too large then there won't be enough force to push the larger volume.

Temperature would also play an important role as even in a closed system since it's dealing with "Gas" and it could alter whatever results would otherwise exist. (For instance Aerosols usually have a temperature warning because they have a set design limit on how pressurised the container should be, if the temperature goes about that the Aerosol can burst. Some people have had this happen in their cars and it can cause a lot of damage.)

I know I can say "Victor I really don't think it will work", however it's not going to stop him trying if he is absolutely sure that he's right. He'll only be able to learn by seeing it for himself, I just hope he's capable of being able to see a prototype not produce the results he wants and still be happy he tried.

This is the idea.

Very well explained, but the universe is cold and there will be no high temperature.

If it worked (which it doesn't) you would gain efficiencies by using liquid instead of a gas, such as water, mercury, or even some more dense exotic elements in a liquid state.

I would not advise sucking or blowing on any of them though.

The idea of the bag is good.