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http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/home/an ... eship.html
So, one could use any means they could build in space to collect and store enough energy, make Electron-Positron pairs out of the ether and then use them to power any type of engine almost, the issue here appears to be shielding, why not just have a very long strut, engine at one side, a shield in the middle, and the crew at the opposite end of the craft, I am not if magnetic shielding applies here.... Also these positron-electron pair snaps might one day be very scary bullets.... 1.22 mev in one shot.. I wonder if any strange arrangements like cooper pairing apply to positrons, and what happens if you entangle a positron pair? electron and a positron? _________________ Let not the bindings of society hold you back from improving it.... the masses follow where the bold explore. |
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None of which is proven beyond the theoretical yet. So it's all about as useful as Star Trek "technobabble". Fun sci-fi pipe-dreams, but nothing you can engineer into a practical vehicle.
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They have made positrons, its not a theory, it happens when energies of are near 1.22mev
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They postulate that they have "made" "positrons" with a huge particle collider. It's more of, "Yep, we think that was one of them because of the indirect radiation we think is coming from them".
Beware of believing too much of what experimental physicists claim/publish. Even if actually true, they have no practical means of controlling and storing said supposed particles, much less harnessing them for useful purposes. They have yet to even accomplish the straightforward task of sustained nuclear fusion, despite 30 years and billions of dollars of working on it. |
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Ok, even if they have made a positron, or two (debatable) they last for microseconds, can't be stored in anything we make out of matter, except a magnetic bottle which uses energy to store energy, and you'd need trillions for enough energy to fire a maneuvering thruster (just 1)
The electo/positron pairs you're talking about may occur randomly, we have no idea how to make them do it, and even if we do, they cancel each other out, so there's no Net energy. (You'd use at least as much creating the pair as you would get out of them, minus some losses.) Basic laws of Thermodynamics, 1) You cant get something for nothing, and 2) you can't even break even. 0 point energy is a myth. You can run all the simulations you want, in your head, or blender, but anything you design for the real world has to work in the real world, or it's not going to sell very well. Why don't you just accept the laws physicists agreed on, and revolutionize it in someway within those laws. I'm sure they missed something, there's more we don't know about the way the universe works than we do, but better minds than you are working on it with better funding, and better labs. If there are any breakthrough discoveries in any of these fields, my money's on it coming from them. However, if you make a practical breakthrough down here, that's actually prototypable, and marketable, you can sell it for self funding. Build a better moustrap, and the world will beat a path to your door. Redefine all of physics so your pet designs work in your head, and freewarez simulations, and you will be ignored. _________________ "You can't have everything, where would you put it?" -Steven Wright. |
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When a positron and electron mix they annihilate all the mass they contain, releasing an amazing amount of energy,
the idea is just an idea, that can be built on, or forgotten, but there may be a way to induce vacuum background to make particles, and push them before they are gone..... _________________ Let not the bindings of society hold you back from improving it.... the masses follow where the bold explore. |
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