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Posted by: Lourens - Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:34 am
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How much of the upcoming SpaceX Dragon mission to the ISS will be successful?
Poll ended at Fri May 18, 2012 10:34 am
Launch failure, F9/Dragon never reaches orbit 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Launch successful, some issue during checkout prevents Dragon from attempting to berth with ISS 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Dragon attempts to berth with ISS but fails 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Dragon successfully berths with ISS, but has to undock early due to some unforeseen problem 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Dragon successfully completes ISS visit, but fails to return to Earth in one piece or is not recovered successfully 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Mission is a complete success 56%  56%  [ 9 ]
After reaching orbit successfully, Dragon broadcasts the cryptic message "Screw you guys, I'm outta here" and autonomously fires its Draco thrusters to enter a Mars transfer orbit, never to be heard of again until humanity reaches Mars in person in 2042 31%  31%  [ 5 ]
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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:06 pm
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What's also amazing is that there's a space craft coming down on the other side of the world, and there's an aeroplane with a long-range infrared camera filming it, and that signal is then sent up to a satellite, down again somewhere in the US, multiplexed with other relevant signals, patched into the Internet, and transmitted through a transatlantic cable to my living room, where I can see the whole thing live on my computer screen. Who needs flying cars? This is the 21st century right there :).


You missed a tiny detail that I personally found very amusing: at the final stages of the descent and while waiting for recovery crews to reach Dragon, you could see Elon at mission control, picking up his smartphone and I immediately "knew "that he was not writing someone a text but that he would be updating his twitter feed. So I kept an eye on the other tab with Elon's twitter page to see what he was writing as soon as the new tweet appeared... I don't know, but I thought that to be a very "strange" situation :D

If I had a twitter account I would have immediately replied with some nonsense like "hey, just saw you typing that live on nasa tv!" :D

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:33 pm
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Just fascinates me, i dont think i can name more than 5 times ive seen a Union Flag flying in the UK without it being a Jubilee or something. Just seems so alien to me the whole put the flag on everything you can do well at, especially as Elon was born is SA, but then I guess most of the Saturn 5 guys were German too.



Well, admittedly, it is a Jubilee, but I see flags everywhere and lots of people celebrating our Queens 60 years on the throne.

That is patriotism, and I certainly regard myself as a 'patriot' and monarchist.

I do find your posts somewhat racist.


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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:42 pm
More naive and overly simplistic than intentionally racist in my book.

Personally, I'm proud of some things my country achieved, and ashamed of others. I think generally speaking there's way too much absolutism in the world, and too many people that are sure of something. In my opinion, it's all shades of grey, and there's always more than one way of looking at things.

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:16 pm
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I do find your posts somewhat racist.


Racism means judging someone based on their race - not not (double negative intended) judging someone at all. If you believe that there is no objective right and wrong, then you should have no problem with Hitler. And if you do believe that Hitler was evil, you should be able to say why, without the moral laziness of accusing anyone who believes in objective morality of "generalizing", or thinking in "black and white" - or being a racist. I think the real reason you accuse me of "racism" is that believing in something requires you to risk life and limb for that belief - and you are a coward.

And if you protest, you may challenge me to a duel - your choice, squirt guns, or water balloons. I warn you, I am a deadly shot. :lol:

SpaceX is nowhere near to accomplishing its goal. They don't have reusability, and that is the real transformative um, uh - transformation.

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:20 pm
@ SuperShuki: how about giving your ego a little bit less room here in the forum and stop insulting others (hint "coward")? Seriously, in most other forums I frequently use, you would have been (temporarily) banned for some of your more "aggressive" posts. Simply for "trolling" or starting a "flame war".


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Two points of view:

(1.)"Believe as we do, or we will kill you!"
or
(2.)"I believe in ThisOrThat-ism, but I could be wrong."

Unfortunately, the first point of view is all too prevalent in the world.
We can take a major step forward as a species with the simple realization: "..., but I could be wrong."

Lourens wrote:
Personally, I'm proud of some things my country achieved, and ashamed of others. I think generally speaking there's way too much absolutism in the world, and too many people that are sure of something. In my opinion, it's all shades of grey, and there's always more than one way of looking at things.

I can only agree with both of you. This is the kind of attitude I respect the most!

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:12 pm
Actually, I have been temporarily banned before. I try to avoid it, but people keep on demanding that I accept that morality is relative, and don't accept the possibility that they could be wrong. They don't say, "SuperShuki, you may be right, I don't know for sure" - they say that I am wrong! And it's not like I bring up the subject, either - I didn't complain that someone put their flag next to their spaceship! If you bring me proof that I'm wrong, of course I'll accept it - but don't condemn me for trying to change your point of view, after you've condemned mine!

If you want to express your values on this board, why shouldn't I express mine?

Besides, he called me a racist.

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:30 am
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Actually, I have been temporarily banned before. I try to avoid it, but people keep on demanding that I accept that morality is relative, and don't accept the possibility that they could be wrong. They don't say, "SuperShuki, you may be right, I don't know for sure" - they say that I am wrong! And it's not like I bring up the subject, either - I didn't complain that someone put their flag next to their spaceship! If you bring me proof that I'm wrong, of course I'll accept it - but don't condemn me for trying to change your point of view, after you've condemned mine!

If you want to express your values on this board, why shouldn't I express mine?

Besides, he called me a racist.

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Not I didnt, I said I found your posts somewhat racist - that doesn't mean you are, it may just mean, as Lourens aid, that you are simply naive, which would be my guess. TBH, I even find you sig line quite offensive and that fact you find it necessary to proclaim it on every post seem to reinforce that view.


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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:42 am
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TBH, I even find you sig line quite offensive and that fact you find it necessary to proclaim it on every post seem to reinforce that view.


Of course, you find it offensive - because it proclaims a value system in which I am right and you are wrong - a value system which every other person in this board rejects. That's respect - to say to someone's face that they are wrong, not to pretend that it's their posts that are wrong, or something that they have no control over. I have control over my own choices, as do you - we have free will. If you think something I do is wrong, explain why - I can take it. I may not agree, but at least you will have my respect. But saying that both of us are correct, and I'm just too naive to understand? You can never learn anything by assuming that - you can only learn something by assuming that there is a correct reality, and an incorrect reality - and we must find it ourselves.

By the way, I have never said that any person on this board is evil, or bad, in any way. You all seem to be genuinely good, and decent, people. You are just wrong - is that such a bad thing?

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:50 am
How about getting back on topic? ;-)

Does anyone know when the next dragon mission to ISS is due?


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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:07 pm
I looked at the launch manifest on Spacex.com - http://www.spacex.com/launch_manifest.php. The next flight is another ISS resupply, and then comes the first flight of Falcon Heavy!

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:17 am
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How about getting back on topic? ;-)

Does anyone know when the next dragon mission to ISS is due?


Tentatively scheduled for September 24th

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:55 am
And they have another F9 at the Cape already, and they had a couple of Dragons in various stages of production last autumn. Elon said that they didn't really need to adjust much if anything after the test flight, so it'll probably be down to range availability again...

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Post Re: SpaceX Dragon to the ISS   Posted on: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:36 pm
Yes, apparently that Sept 24 date was originally August 9th. There seems no physical reason why that Aug 9 date couldn't be met after all (still giving 2 months for report writing and formalities), unless NASA can't get the cargo together in time, or they just don't need it yet.

I vaguely recall Elon Musk said in the post splash-down press conference 'early third quarter'...

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