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Carmack Prize Attempts

Posted by: Rob Goldsmith - Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:37 am
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Post Re: Carmack Prize Attempts   Posted on: Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:30 pm
Weather balloons use radio sondes that send raw GPS data to the ground. A program, such as SondeMonitor ( http://www.coaa.co.uk/sondemonitor.htm ) is used to convert the raw data to latitude, longitude and altitude. The program requires the orbital elements of the GPS satellites at the time the data was measure. The orbital elements can be downloaded from a website, or they can be imported from a GPS unit connected to the computer.


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Post Re: Carmack Prize Attempts   Posted on: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:03 pm
I saw the long version, thanks for the link!

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Post Re: Carmack Prize Attempts   Posted on: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:20 am
We recorded the raw data on tens of thousands of GPS readings and then sent the data on a flash card out to be processed so that method can work. Got the results back in two weeks but it worked and with greater confidence on altitude position than a .regular commercial type receiver/altimeter even though there have been amateur rocket attempts that have successfully had GPS lock above 100,000'.


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Post Re: Carmack Prize Attempts   Posted on: Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:09 am
Raw data and pre processed data are two different things. Recording the signals from the front end of the GPS will give you data you wont get with RAW GPS data and post processed it wont have the COCOM limits inposed on RAW data.
The radiosonde's process front end data not RAW GPS data so that signal is what you want. There is no GPS in the sonde at all it just transmitts the front end signal and it's processed on the ground. So no COCOM limits. Interesting huh : )

Monroe

edit- Correction the raidosounde's send RAW GPS data. Not pre processed front end data.

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Post Re: Carmack Prize Attempts   Posted on: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:56 am
For those that haven't seen it yet, here is Ken's video of their successful 100,000'+ Carmack Prize winning flight...a two stage on 20,480 Ns total.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MVmH0bkMqE&feature=youtu.be

The Aeropac 100K team's excellant write up can be found here:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7wR-btf10NSNEdKOHROcGRGbDA/edit?pli=1

My congratulations on a job well done. Shows what a real team can do.

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Post Re: Carmack Prize Attempts   Posted on: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:05 pm
Indeed. Really enjoyed the write-up as well. Although strictly speaking I'm not sure it's "suitable for being published in a magazine" :-). But I'd say it's a case of above and beyond, and they won the prize fair and square! Congratulations!

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Post Re: Carmack Prize Attempts   Posted on: Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:02 pm
I didn't know someone won the prize until today. Pretty awesome!

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