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SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun

Posted by: Rob Goldsmith - Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:48 am
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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:32 pm
You can see some of the highlights of the launch, as seen on TV - here - http://www.youtube.com/user/pezevenghio.
I have some more TV capture files left that need a little postprocessing and uploading, but there's not much to see very different from the videos already uploaded.


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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:13 am
Was the rocket shown floating in the water fully fueled? It seemed to float very well, which struck me as odd since the density of H202 is about 1.4 g/ml and sea water is only 1.02 g/ml.


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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:17 am
Floating rocket: good observation. It must be empty or something. Huge balloon launch does not make sense anyway. It will be interesting to see if they can get it up at all.

For much less bother and expense the first stage can be made a little larger for surface launch. The extra propellant will be cheaper--at least if LOX were used.


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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:48 am
I did notice that too but did give them benefit of the doubt that they may fill it at the last min. that would make sense. But I still don't think it could lift it's self much less the rocket. Although filling a rocket with peroxide at sea does not sound like fun! :) Reminds me of the movie "Overboard" with Goldie Han and Kurt Russell "It's a fine day at sea" cried the bosunmate! hahahaha! Oh me. I sure would get busy filling out my Christmas list too! But it wouldn't be Porsche it would be like Falcon 1e ahhh might as well look at Dragon no Delta oh my such decisions---- Dreamin I like Dreamin cause dreaming can make you mine'''' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' oh gime a break-----

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It's starting to sound like "watch this" Dope,, oh shoot me I give up.
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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:04 am
Well, it looks like the first bit of the CGI video at least...

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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:02 pm
Rescheduled for 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yh5v3tm


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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:22 am
http://www.arcaspace.com/en/home.htm

Well, I guess all the naysayers can take a break now.


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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:23 pm
No Video! No photos of launch? No parachute? Sounds to me like what we predicted would happen happened. Good Luck to them but sounds like the rocket plunged into the sea to me.

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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:36 pm
Monroe wrote:
No Video! No photos of launch? No parachute? Sounds to me like what we predicted would happen happened. Good Luck to them but sounds like the rocket plunged into the sea to me.

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We have a front page article about it here http://spacefellowship.com/news/art2281 ... cket-.html and you can find some more picture here http://picasaweb.google.com/arcaorbital/Misiunea4b#

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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:25 pm
OK, so the photos show us hard proof that they have successfully launched... a balloon!

Moon, here we come! ;)

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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:19 pm
lol. where was the camera? if they were able to capture pictures at 40,000 ft but not 120,000....

i agree, sounds like a rocket failure. i'm not sure i'd be convinced even if they released the telemetry log (well, unless it showed reasonable behavior like a failure). pics or gtfo!

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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:29 am
Indeed, to quote the internet, "pics or it didn't happen". Saying it worked is meaningless, and all they've shown is a balloon launch and an unfortunately gullible military.


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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:49 am
the last time this happened didn't someone point out that a fueled rocket with H2O2 wouldn't float? does that still apply for this launch/is that how they got the balloon to carry it up?

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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:43 pm
It's a rocket not a spaceship. How can one place a camera on a rocket and not expect it to burn? There was a camera in the probe capsule, but not on the rocket.
http://www.universetoday.com/74983/moon ... st-flight/

What do you want to see? Some dot on a screen while checking the radar?


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Post Re: SFS News: ARCA - Haas Orbital Rocket Launcher for Google Lun   Posted on: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:32 pm
REDrake,

We would all like to see the same data that ARCA saw, which allowed them to claim a 40 km altitude. ARCA has not shown any proof that they achieved that altitude.

It seems that this launch was a bit different than the animation that ARCA has been showning. In the animation, they show a 2-stage Helen 2 rocket. The news video shows that there was only a single stage. Did ARCA use the first stage or the second stage from the Helen 2 rocket for Mission 4b?

It appears that the video from the mission came from a payload box that was hanging directly under the balloon. One of the frames ARCA posted shows the green filler tube in the field of view. Was this the only camera? Why didn't ARCA have other cameras pointed at the rocket, or on the rocket or in the suborbital payload? NASA has used cameras on the SRBs, which produce amazing video from launch to splashdown.

ARCA's claims would be more believable if they provide more data to the world. Otherwise, it looks like they are hiding something.

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