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Moon Mission Member ![]()
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Space Station Commander ![]()
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Way to go guys! Congratulations!
_________________ Say, can you feel the thunder in the air? Just like the moment ’fore it hits – then it’s everywhere What is this spell we’re under, do you care? The might to rise above it is now within your sphere Machinae Supremacy – Sid Icarus |
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Space Station Member ![]()
Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:22 pm
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Thanks!
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Space Station Commander ![]()
Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:29 pm
Posts: 637 Location: Austin, Texas |
Ben
Congratulations and a job well done! I did not know you guy's knew how to draft (NASCAR) Style! Did you beat AA at the flag? What a Day for the New Space bunch of bananas! We need to start a league like rocket racing league for the LLC contenders! And keep this going! Maybe even have a mini league for smaller landers like our Quad Pod? Anyway what a great few days! And congrats to Unreasonable too for making a showing worth remembering with their Blue Ball. Monroe Team Prometheus _________________ Today's the day! We go into Space! |
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Congratulations! What an awesome feat!
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Rocket Constructor ![]()
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:41 pm
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I've been bursting with pride, and annoying all my friends and family. You guys have really inspired me, and I'm sure thousands of others. Congratulations!
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Space Walker ![]()
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:35 am
Posts: 207 Location: New Zealand/Europe |
Congrats on the Mid Air re-light guys!
Video is awesome! What was it like watching it? I could just imagine what all your hearts were doing! Iain |
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Spaceflight Trainee ![]()
Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:02 pm
Posts: 49 Location: Antwerp, Belgium |
TheFlyingkiwi wrote: Congrats on the Mid Air re-light guys! Video is awesome! What was it like watching it? I could just imagine what all your hearts were doing! Iain For all who don't understand what TheFlyingkiwi is talking about, it put up the news + the video on the front page here is the link http://spacefellowship.com/news/art20502/masten-space-re-lights-rocket-engine-in-flight.html _________________ Science may set limits to knowledge, but should not set limits to imagination. |
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Space Walker ![]()
Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:55 am
Posts: 126 Location: Amsterdam |
Congratulations Masten!
Can you tell us a bit how you prevent gases from entering the fuel flow during engine shutdown. I can imagine that during the zero G phase this is an issue cheers, c. Last edited by culture on Thu May 27, 2010 11:48 am, edited 1 time in total. |
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Space Walker ![]()
Joined: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:30 am
Posts: 211 Location: USA |
Very impressive!
One question though. When watching AA videos their rocket hangs in the air like a rock. It does not swerve or tilt. What is different about your control algorithm? Do you simply have more aggressive coefficients in case something extreme happens or do you have less control authority in your actuators? Keep up the good work! ~Daniel |
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Space Station Member ![]()
Joined: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:51 am
Posts: 420 Location: Vienna, Austria, Europe, Earth |
DanielW wrote: Very impressive! One question though. When watching AA videos their rocket hangs in the air like a rock. It does not swerve or tilt. What is different about your control algorithm? Do you simply have more aggressive coefficients in case something extreme happens or do you have less control authority in your actuators? Keep up the good work! ~Daniel Funny thing is: back during the 2009 NGLLC runs it looked like it was just the other way round _________________ pride comes before a fall |
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Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:02 pm
Posts: 49 Location: Antwerp, Belgium |
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Space Station Member ![]()
Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:22 pm
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TheFlyingkiwi wrote: Congrats on the Mid Air re-light guys! Video is awesome! What was it like watching it? I could just imagine what all your hearts were doing! Iain I was 150 feet away, running the show. It was absolutely heart stopping. |
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culture wrote: Congratulations Masten! Can you tell us a bit how you prevent gases from entering the fuel flow during engine shutdown. I can imagine that during the zero G phase this is an issue cheers, c. A relevant question. The answer is that we simply didn't bother to do anything about it. Because it was restarting so close to the ground, the tanks were still mostly full, and the bit of aero drag on the way down plus the engine purge was enough to settle the propellants. |
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Space Station Member ![]()
Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:22 pm
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DanielW wrote: Very impressive! One question though. When watching AA videos their rocket hangs in the air like a rock. It does not swerve or tilt. What is different about your control algorithm? Do you simply have more aggressive coefficients in case something extreme happens or do you have less control authority in your actuators? I'm not sure what you mean. It swerves or tilts when it wants to go somewhere, we have a wild amount of control authority. The computer is actually set to use about half of the physical gimbal range right now. To hover, you want the engine thrust line right through the CG, and that line the same as the gravity vector. To move sideways, you have to get the CG off that vector, so the vehicle essentially "falls" in the direction you want it to go. If you link to specific videos, I can speak to what it's doing. The MSS control system is higher frequency and more tightly wound that AA's, I've seen both companies do flights recently. |
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