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Posted by: Dan Frederiksen - Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm
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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:36 pm
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And most of you will be fooled into thinking that if you just don't think about it and deny everything that it will all go away and no consequence will come of it but He remembers everything and on that day you will be judged accordingly. Only admission of guilt and repentence will save you.


Unless the Muslims are right. In which case yours will be an awful doom.

Or the Scientologists. In which case this dissonance is a result of the brainwashed thetans in you.

Or the Hindus, and death and rebirth are repeating cycle.

Or the Buddhists, and you'll just suffer anyway.

Or the ancient greeks, and you'll go to the underworld.

Or the Westborough Baptists, in which case they'll be saved and no matter what you do you're toast.

Or the lolcats, and you'll go to tacgnol. Ceilingcat saw what you did there.

Or the mods might just have enough of the way this ridiculous thread has gone and do something.


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:52 pm
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if killing a million people, justified with lies, all for the amusement of satanists is not evil, then what is..


Just got the green light from a mod to play, so let's play :)

Moot point considering neither Hitler nor Bush worshiped Satan. Doubly moot point considering the "defenders" against Satan, the Christians where the main distributors of slaves, weapons, wars, and drugs throughout history.

Evil, Stupid, Satanic, visionless.... do you know how to debate? Dan, I come to this forum to get updates on Armadillo, and the other metal bending projects that post updates on this forum. I come here because this, and one other space forum get actual updates from the people who run these projects. I respect them because they produce tangle results. Then I see this Genius, who draws pretty pictures in powerpoint, and tries to "call out" people who actually DO something.

A man wiser than you and me both said it better than I, when dealing with a man such as yourself.

Well I am certainly wiser than this man. It is only too likely that neither of us has any knowledge to boast of; but he thinks that he knows something which he does not know, whereas I am quite conscious of my ignorance. At any rate it seems that I am wiser than he is to this small extent, that I do not think that I know what I do not know.
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The Armadillo team has written the code, bent the metal, and invested their time that they will never get back. They deserve respect for this. The talent of people such as Carmack, Musk, Rutan, Bigelow, Masten, Goff, Breed, and the crew that these people have assembled are the people that pull humanity forward by the scruff of it's neck.

Every day I go to work, trying to make the children I teach curious about the world, and willing to build the imperfect things. I host my schools math and science club, helping the children learn that building trumps drawing, and improving trumps criticizing.

Dan, I type these messages because I am getting payed 20 dollars an hour at my second job watching a building, otherwise you would not be worth my time. Go build that car, write some code, just stop showing how close in mentality to Hitler and Bush you are to the public, it's embarrassing.


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:06 pm
Monkey Liar (doesn't that nick say a lot about you..)
the muslims share the same God as the jews and christians but it's a warped version.
Hindu is based on truth but also warped. impertfect similar to islam but might have been perfect for them in their state.
Buddhism actually support christianity from what little I know of it. Buddha himself said he was no deity, just a wise guy and that later the real guy would show up. Buddha predates Jesus.
Scientology is a full blown satanic deviation. flavors of truth but very distorted. the best lies are 90% truth but in scientology's case he got away with just 10%
not familier with WB but they don't matter
lolcats are harmless fun.

the devil only has to create a little bit of noise to make you sleepers give up. it's also how he gets you to vote republican. Clinton not being truthful about playing with Monica lewinsky and the schmucks are dumb enough to believe the devil when he says both sides lie so either will do so why not republican.. Clinton lies about liking T&A, the republicans lie about wars.. but hey who's counting.

the truth exists even though many lie.. think a little. it'll save you life


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:21 pm
Hi Dan!

I know you ask Sigurd this question... but what the heck :wink:

Dan Frederiksen wrote:
is it possible that some of the things I say resonate as true?

until now... ehh NO

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that behind all the thoughtless responses to me is a certain... awe? that you like to hear it even though you wont readily admit it..

hmmmm... NO

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who will be the first to have the presence of mind to admit I am right. who among you will be the first to think.

I think..NO one

Now your question to me
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culture, when you will make a change in your life from immature thoughtless that just enjoys the activity to actually trying to understand what is being said

I think I'll never grow up Dan :wink:

And last but not least an question I asked you before:
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.... (because how dare I criticize anyone)....

How about people criticizing you and your car? Do you dare to say "Hey, maybe you're right and I was wrong". Ready to treat people with respect instead of telling them they are mindless? Ready to actually open your mind and maybe learn something instead of judging people?

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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:46 pm
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the muslims share the same God as the jews and christians but it's a warped version.


Actually according to them, we're all Muslims and always have been. Apparently it says so in the Quran. So you go tell a muslim that. Preferably, whilst in a muslim country. Surrounded by religious police.


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:28 pm
To Sigurd.

I am just curious. Does the continued activity on this tread correlate to an increased activity on other topics?

Does net work traffic increase?

If so, perhaps the instigator should get an honorary, but powerless title. It is a bit like adding a comic section to a paper.

I actually do believe that Dan is succeeding in getting people to think. Unfortunately we are bound to come to conclusions far afield from what he would like.

I am sorry Dan, you do need to employ a self consistent system of logic and rhetoric before your ideas can be treated seriously.

In the meanwhile we can all work on our charity. I really only succeed by not posting myself. So far the tone has been quite admirable, considering the circumstances.

Thanks for the memories,

~The other Dan


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:59 pm
First post, but hey why not :-)

Dan, for all your ranting and raving you have not once explained WHY Armadillo launching your satellite concept is such the great human advancement tool.

So what if they launched a space telescope?

Please explain the reasoning as to why this is the be-all and end-all of what AA should be doing, as I cant for the life of me "see the light" as to your (lack of) logic.

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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:13 am
DanielW, how have I been inconsistent? or do you get to make such a claim irrespective of the truth


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:25 am
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Unless the Muslims are right. In which case yours will be an awful doom.

Or the Scientologists. In which case this dissonance is a result of the brainwashed thetans in you.

Or the Hindus, and death and rebirth are repeating cycle.

Or the Buddhists, and you'll just suffer anyway.

Or the ancient greeks, and you'll go to the underworld.

Or the Westborough Baptists, in which case they'll be saved and no matter what you do you're toast.

Or the lolcats, and you'll go to tacgnol. Ceilingcat saw what you did there.

Or the mods might just have enough of the way this ridiculous thread has gone and do something.


I wholehearted agree with your comment. Personally I like the FSM, praise his noodly appendages. A persons fate after death has as much to do with their star sign as it has with the version of the invisible man in the sky that they worship. It you really want to know what happens you after you die, go look at some dead stuff.

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Everyone is an atheist to some degree, some of us just go one god further. - R. Dawkins


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:38 am
I used to be an atheist too. I even recall thinking that I should tell people about my discovery that God was just primitive man's attempt to explain all the unknowns when I was 14 or 15.
But now I have certainty to the contrary. I'm not really convinced, I don't believe it strongly, I know.

you see you wouldn't experience your own existence were you a mere electrochemical machine. you would just do. not that you will understand. maybe later in life if you should decide to think at some point.

things are not what they appear to be, my primitive friends


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:07 am
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you see you wouldn't experience your own existence were you a mere electrochemical machine. you would just do. not that you will understand. maybe later in life if you should decide to think at some point.

things are not what they appear to be, my primitive friends


My dog cries when I leave home, sometimes for an hour.

Dolphins have names for each other.

Monkeys can communicate complecated ideas to each other using sign language

Elephants can paint pictures, even of themselves.

As you have got older, you have became way to impressed with your fancy monkey tricks. Let me guess you realized you where a brilliant visionary genius, about the same time that you decided that the traditional religion of your nation was the ONLY true religion?. Good thing you where born in Denmark, because if you had been born in UAE you would be Muslim and unable to enjoy the pleasures of bacon.

Electromechanical machines that feel emotion, yep that's me. Tell your God to give Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and my childhood imaginary friend a hug next time you talk to him.


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:20 am
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DanielW, how have I been inconsistent? or do you get to make such a claim irrespective of the truth


To answer the second part first. Yes I get to make claims irrespective of the truth. We all do. However, no one need pay me any more mind than a kindly regard unless I can back up what I state.


You spend most of your time trying to convince us that we are not thinking and to admit that you are right.

Why do you want non thinking people to acknowledge that you are right?


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Post Re: How many years John..   Posted on: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:26 am
I wasn't raised christian and the faith of this country is weak. the priests are clueless, often times bizarrely enough they don't even believe. My faith did not come from 'my' culture.
and I am vegetarian for I shall not kill. I escort little flies in my apartment outside rather than kill them. even mosquito. not that you will understand.

you will eventually know that I am right but you might not be alive in that moment.


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:29 am
Daniel, trying to wake up my fellow man, irrespective of motivation, is not evidence of inconsistency is it?


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Post Re: How many years John   Posted on: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:37 am
The assumption would be that we would be awake upon believing what you believe. Would it not be far more likely that we continue in our slumber and merely profess something else without a thoughtful knowledge of it?

I am merely proposing that perhaps intellect and thoughtfulness are apart from professing the truth. I think it would be more accurate, and allow for more honest dialog, to say that the rest of us are possessed of active intellects and are indeed seeking out what truth may be found in our little corners of the globe.

That approach would mean that any development in a person's world view constitutes a real victory and not a large waste of time.


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