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Spaceflight Participant ![]()
Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:17 am
Posts: 71 Location: Gdansk, Poland |
Dr_Keith_H wrote: So "Burt Rutan" (wink wink) simply did all that guff with the SS1 and wotnot just so he could justify this forum ... amazingly clever of him. The greatest and most successful troll in the history of usenet I would say (and the most expensive). DKH If designing, building and flying suborbital ships is trolling... well, troll me more! _________________ It's okay Pluto, I'm not a planet either. |
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Space Walker ![]()
Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2004 3:17 pm
Posts: 243 Location: So Cal, baby! |
Here's an interesting article which appears to have escaped Sigurd's posting on Latest News:
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/422/1 ...I thought Paul Allen's remarks (or non-remarks) were intruiging. |
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Moon Mission Member ![]()
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:46 pm
Posts: 1204 Location: Kapellen, Antwerp, Belgium, Europe, Planet Earth, the Milky Way Galaxy |
Thanks, I receive email updates from the Space Review... but I've been very bussy lately.
If you're willing to post the articles yourself on the front page (everyone can do it), you can register an account on the about page: http://www.xprizenews.org/about.php register: http://www.xprizenews.org/wp-register.php login: http://www.xprizenews.org/wp-login.php Send an email to xprize@gmail.com if you (or anyone else) registers an account, so I can enable the features to post news etc. _________________ Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. - Lord Kelvin, 1892 |
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Moon Mission Member ![]()
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2004 11:52 am
Posts: 1262 Location: Exeter, Devon, England |
just great, what a great article
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Space Station Commander ![]()
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am
Posts: 887 |
I was disturbed by this quote:
While Allen was happy to talk about some of his other interests—when asked about this season’s prospects for his NFL team, the Seattle Seahawks, he said “The defense will be better”—he was reticent to talk about future space-related investments. I asked him, “Michael Griffin said that NASA is interested in contracting delivery of cargo and astronauts to the International Space Station. Is that a market you’re interested in?” His response was, “I can’t answer that question.” The only thing I’m reading into that answer is that he’s a smart business man. That or he really cares more about football than spaceflight. Let's hope it's the former. |
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Moon Mission Member ![]()
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:15 pm
Posts: 1233 Location: London, England |
They cancelled the planned white knight/X-37 flight on friday after they had some problems with a data link. I'd forgotten all about this. They havent set a new date yet but hopefully we should see something pretty soon if it was only a minor problem.
http://www.dailynews.com/antelopevalley/ci_3637266 _________________ A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. |
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Space Station Commander ![]()
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am
Posts: 887 |
It ran off the runway:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3217961/ All kinds of problems: http://starshipmodeler.net/cgi-bin/phpB ... hp?t=36508 |
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Moon Mission Member ![]()
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:15 pm
Posts: 1233 Location: London, England |
Here's an article giving a few details on SS2.
http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... ealed.html I cant believe that virgin would want to go for the 7G reentry force quoted because it sounds a bit much for most people to deal with. _________________ A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. |
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Moon Mission Member ![]() ![]()
Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:38 pm
Posts: 1361 Location: Austin, Texas |
The 7G reentry is a direct consequence of the higher flight (140 km). The farther the space craft falls before encountering the atmosphere, the harder it hits.
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Spaceflight Trainee ![]()
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:25 am
Posts: 35 |
Not necessarily... it's a function of the ballistic coefficient and reentry angle. For example, the reentry load on the shuttle is closer to 3 gs, and it's coming from orbit... it's due to their shallow reentry angle.
The low L/D of the feathered configuration and low kinetic energy precludes a shallow reentry angle and that is the direct cause of the high loads. On the other hand, shallow angles usually result in a stability/control issues. The interesting thing is that the article gave enough technical information that one can start academically sizing the SS2 vehicle; it would only take a few assumptions to a WK2 sizing exercise... I wouldn't be surprised if some professors don't give this information to students as an exercise this fall! Has anyone started yet? |
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Moon Mission Member ![]() ![]()
Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:38 pm
Posts: 1361 Location: Austin, Texas |
You are absolutely right galantz. I wonder what reentry load rocketplane is expecting, since they have a better L/D. I know there has been some disagreement between Rutan and others about reentry safety. Rutan firmly believes in his care free feather, but it does impose higher G loads when falling back to the atmosphere vertically.
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Space Station Member ![]() ![]()
Joined: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:16 am
Posts: 322 |
Why do I keep thinking WK2 will turn out to be the same vehicle as T-Space's VLA?
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Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:23 am
Posts: 3745 Location: Hamburg, Germany |
Hello, bad-astra,
I too am interested to find out if that's the case like I said in the Financial Barriers section. Ass far as I remeber the White Knight 2 will be unveiled this year. Perhaps then there will be informations about maximum payload and the like. Dipl.-Volkswirt (bdvb) Augustin (Political Economist) |
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Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2004 11:23 am
Posts: 3745 Location: Hamburg, Germany |
For quite another reason I had a look to t/Space's website today. In the list of partners Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp. is to be found.
Ball's task Quote: is designing and delivering an integrated avionics system for the CXV So there is a business relationship between Ball and t/Space and thus between Ball and Scaled Composites as the developer of the CXV itself and the VLA. Perhaps this ends up in Scaled Composites-developed vehicle using Ball's ballutes in the future(?)... I remember already having posted somewhere the possibility that Ball' s ballute-technology might be integrated into an orbital Scaled Composites-vehicle. ... Dipl.-Volkswirt (bdvb) Augustin (Political Economist) |
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Moon Mission Member ![]()
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:15 pm
Posts: 1233 Location: London, England |
Virgin Galactic have said that the interior of SS2 will be unveiled on 28th September.
http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... splay.html The article also gives a few more details on WK2. _________________ A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. |
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