Page 1 of 1 |
[ 15 posts ] |
2004: Private space travel takes off!
2004: Private space travel takes off!
Author | Message |
---|---|
Space Walker ![]() ![]()
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:08 pm
Posts: 242 ![]() |
Okay, the X-Prize is approaching its final months. One of the recent complaints I've had is that due to Burt Rutan, the X-Prize has become less of a competition. I do agree that Burt Rutan seems most likely to win with his SpaceShipOne design, but recent flight test troubles mean that he might not win the X-Prize until early 2004. If that is true, there will be a whole pack of teams nipping on his heels, namely:
Armadillo: Just had a sucessful 125 second run of their new engine, which means they are in good position to start low-altitude test flights soon. Da Vinci: With their new Sun Microsystems sponsor and flight-tested engines, they seem to be on a roll for a launch in early 2004. Canadian Arrow: Haven't heard much from them lately but they are pretty far along. Starchaser Last week they tested their Churchill engine several times, and hopefully can meet their Oct 2004 launch date. Other teams I'd also say that Interorbital, American Astronautics, Arcaspace and maybe a new team if this articleis to be believed, could possibly make test flights. We will see... And since Rutan will probably launch many times next year, we could be looking at 10-40 people sent into space next year by private companies! I guess we have a lot to hope for... |
Back to top |
![]() |
Space Walker ![]() ![]()
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:58 pm
Posts: 111 ![]() |
I'm optimistic, so I'll say five or more.
|
Back to top |
![]() |
Spaceflight Trainee ![]() ![]()
Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2003 11:46 pm
Posts: 32 Location: Napier, New Zealand ![]() |
indeed that is a lot to hope for
so far only 460 (somthing) people have entered 'Space' thats like a 100 a decade from a population ranging between (over the years of course 1960 - present day) 3 and a half billion to 6ix biliion individuals. Go get em you space programs of the new age! yeee haaaw _________________ He Who Dreams |
Back to top |
![]() ![]() |
Spaceflight Enthusiast ![]() ![]()
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2003 11:54 pm
Posts: 4 Location: Netherlands ![]() |
Vendigo wrote: I'm optimistic, so I'll say five or more. same here ![]() |
Back to top |
![]() |
Moderator ![]() ![]()
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:25 am
Posts: 161 Location: DFW, Texas ![]() |
As we near the awarding the XPRIZE, we should ask ourselves, who is ready to buy a ticket?
What are you doing to put yourself in position to buy a ticket? As companies make money taking passengers on suborbital flights, a private space industry is assured. Are you doing your part? ![]() |
Back to top |
![]() |
Space Walker ![]() ![]()
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:08 pm
Posts: 242 ![]() |
Here's another question to consider.
With so many teams launching people into space, do you think we'll see the first private space fatality in 2004? I certainly hope not, but pioneering new frontiers entails running new risks... Fortunately, with the exception of the highly experienced Scaled Composites team, most of the X PRIZE teams are planning unmanned launches first - which should prevent any fatal fireballs. |
Back to top |
![]() |
Moderator ![]() ![]()
Joined: Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:25 am
Posts: 161 Location: DFW, Texas ![]() |
You are quite correct to be concerned about the safety record of this private effort of space access for the average man or woman.
As far as private launch facilities, good question. Burt Rutan describes their flight safety approach as 'question, never defend'. Compare that to the attitude of NASA, 'kill the engineer who questions', which precisely what happened to Challenger. The engineers where only ignored on Columbia. NASA's safety record was on TV. The Russian government program safety record is worse but was not on TV. So far very little of Burt Rutan's efforts have been on TV except for Voyager. But he has designed, built and operated dozens of different and remarkable aircraft with an impeccable safety record. As long as any private facilities follow the same attitudes toward safety of their passengers and listen to experienced engineers as opposed to some dimwitted marketing guy (they are just as bad as NASA bureaucrats), Private companies will be OK, even as launch facilities. If my life is on the line, and the choice is private Burt versus government NASA, I will take private launch facilities every time. ![]() There is one more reason private facilities are better. Even if there is a fatal disaster, the taxpayer is not forced to pay for someone else's mistake or arrogance. ![]() |
Back to top |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
We're really missing a moderator on this forum, to make this poll staying at top...
Personally I say also 5 or more, 4 teams promised to go into space, I know very less from other teams their flight plans.., but they are also looking very promising and I think also one of them will atleast go to space. |
Back to top |
|
Moon Mission Member ![]() ![]()
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:46 pm
Posts: 1218 Location: Kapellen, Antwerp, Belgium, Europe, Planet Earth, the Milky Way Galaxy ![]() |
Latest reply was mine, the forum cookie seemed to be removed (out of date) while I was typing it....
|
Back to top |
![]() ![]() |
Spaceflight Participant ![]() ![]()
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2003 1:57 am
Posts: 82 Location: PA,USA ![]() |
I think three teams may make it.
SpaceShipOne barring a mishap definitely Canadian Arrow they seem to have most if not everything they need but they have not done a test shot yet. And one of the others. I hope several of the teams do pull it off sins this should bring more investors in to the fold. It will also pave the way to the next goal and that will be an orbit shot and return. |
Back to top |
![]() |
Space Walker ![]() ![]()
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:08 pm
Posts: 242 ![]() |
DJBREIT wrote: Canadian Arrow they seem to have most if not everything they need but they have not done a test shot yet. Speaking of Canadian Arrow, they recently opened their "Space Centre" which contains a simulator, centrifuge, and recovery training pool. Supposedly, public tours will begin on January 31. ![]() This development really highlights one of the major goals of the X PRIZE: public awareness. It's not enough to just fly rockets, you have to engage the public in the vision for a spacefaring future. Hopefully, the kids and adults who go into the Centre will come out a bit more excited. |
Back to top |
![]() |
Spaceflight Trainee ![]() ![]()
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:26 am
Posts: 23 Location: Alba ![]() |
I really think Starchaser will launch this year, theyre looking good.
|
Back to top |
![]() |
Rocket Constructor ![]() ![]()
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2004 11:51 pm
Posts: 9 Location: Hertfordshire, England ![]() |
I think about 4 or 5 teams will make it this year, because there have been some really quite stupid ideas, I think; like the hot air balloon one(forgotten the name), and the armadillo, that crushable nose is really not gonna do well on the market
![]() _________________ hello |
Back to top |
![]() |
Moderator ![]() ![]()
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:01 am
Posts: 766 Location: New Zealand ![]() |
12 teams have full scale hardware in production, possiblly more by the end of the year.
How many will actually make it there have a maximum possible upper limit of 15, Xprize or non-xprize. I tend to think maybe three teams will repeat launches this year. I think at least 6 will make a first attept though. _________________ What goes up better doggone well stay up! - Morgan Gravitronics, Company Slogan. |
Back to top |
![]() ![]() ![]() |
Space Walker ![]() ![]()
Joined: Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:08 pm
Posts: 242 ![]() |
Quote: the armadillo, that crushable nose is really not gonna do well on the market Apparently, Armadillo agrees with you, because their new design features a powered landing instead. |
Back to top |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Page 1 of 1 |
[ 15 posts ] |
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests |