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Posted by: Texan - Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:26 am
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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:13 pm
How hard is the ice on the moon to get too? It being as hard as steel is not as big a problem... We can heat the ice to soften it.

We can get oxygen out of the lunar rocks, (please correct me if I am wrong) so we don't need the ice for that. Do any of the rocks contain compounds that contain the element hydrogen?


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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:21 pm
No, not much hydrogen - that's why finding ice on the moon would be so useful. And you are corrent about the oxygen - the lunar surface countains a *lot* of oxygen in the rocks, and it will be fairly easy to extract.

On a side note, apparently Titan is one of the best sources for nitrogen in our solar system. Unfortunately it is a bit out of the way for a lunar colony :) , so it will have to be imported from Earth instead.

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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:25 pm
A Lunar Colony would be a good place to get our technology tested so we are ready to build other colonies.

Titan looks like a good place for our first colony in the OUTER solar system.

How much water IS on the moon???


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Post    Posted on: Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:18 am
There is a problem concerning the ice on moon - it's not like the icy surface of lakes on earth in winter. It's mixed to the sands on moon and is existing as small particles.

That has been detected by radio telescopes.

So machines are needed to separate the ice/water from the sands and lots of lunar material have to be heated to get at least small amounts of water.

It may be possible to get but it's more difficult than thought when the icy first was detected.



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Post    Posted on: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:25 pm
Do any of the Lunar rocks contain hydrogen compounds?


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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:01 pm
Why doesn't somebody send a probe to the lunar south pole to see the ice?

Why haven't we sent a probe to orbit the moon recently??

*wonders if the rumors about an alien base on the darkside of the moon are true*


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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:12 pm
Texan wrote:
Why doesn't somebody send a probe to the lunar south pole to see the ice?

Why haven't we sent a probe to orbit the moon recently??

*wonders if the rumors about an alien base on the darkside of the moon are true*


IT'S NOT CALLED THE DARK SIDE, DAMMIT!!! Farside gets the exact same amount of sunlight as Nearside, if not more (because Earth's shadow never gets in the way). Now, if you're talking about Farside, the answer is no. Between NASA and the former Soviet space program (I can't remember the exact name of the organization), the Moon has been thoroughly mapped by numerous probes. There is a base of little green men on the Moon no more than it is made of green cheese.

And the reason there's not been a polar ice probe is likely because it's costly to send an impact probe -- you only get one set of results out of it.

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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:31 pm
jee.. isn't the soil composition different on the "far side" of the moon so it looks darker?

Also why not send a robotic rover to the south pole of the moon to look for a good place to put a base?? A rover orbiter team?

We are planning something like that-right?


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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:40 pm
Also how do we know that russian and american governments are not faking the pictures because they are using the aliens to get technology??

How do we know the alien base can be seen? does it have to be on the surface? maybe they have cloaking technology....


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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:42 pm
Buzz aldrin had an alien base on the moon in his "fiction" book...

maybe he was trying to tell us something.....

that would explain the apollo pictures some say are faked....


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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:16 pm
calling James Oberg ...

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Post    Posted on: Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:35 am
spacecowboy wrote:
Texan wrote:
Why doesn't somebody send a probe to the lunar south pole to see the ice?

Why haven't we sent a probe to orbit the moon recently??

*wonders if the rumors about an alien base on the darkside of the moon are true*


IT'S NOT CALLED THE DARK SIDE, DAMMIT!!! Farside gets the exact same amount of sunlight as Nearside, if not more (because Earth's shadow never gets in the way). Now, if you're talking about Farside, the answer is no. Between NASA and the former Soviet space program (I can't remember the exact name of the organization), the Moon has been thoroughly mapped by numerous probes. There is a base of little green men on the Moon no more than it is made of green cheese.

And the reason there's not been a polar ice probe is likely because it's costly to send an impact probe -- you only get one set of results out of it.


Actually I think darkside would be appropriate for an alien moon base, it'd be on huge wheels that leave crater like tracks and always hangs out in the dark by driving at speed equal to the lunar day/night cycle. :wink:


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Post    Posted on: Wed Jul 14, 2004 8:26 am
Do you mean like a big, sinister, moon version of Santa Claus but there all the time? :?

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Post    Posted on: Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:53 am
Hey that's pretty good too, sinister santa-ish little green men on the moon, eating green cheese and chasing Heinlein rock lizards :D

That was Heinlein with the lunar rock lizards, wasn't it :?


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Post    Posted on: Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:12 pm
:lol:

I don't remember lunar rock lizards in any heinlien book I have read....

ok, seriously, when are we planning to send a probe to the south pole?


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