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Posted by: RBFFFF - Thu Mar 11, 2004 3:46 am
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Post    Posted on: Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:39 am
The U.S. decisions are market driven. Its a stupid market by that logic.

To be a good idea it has to make rich people richer and poorer people richer.

BTW all the presidential candiates drive petrol powered cars. Does John Kerry drive an eletric car? No? Then I guess he pays the oil companies to do what they do.

Who on this forum makes the effort to drive a non-petrol or hybrid car? I guess we all pay the oil companies to do what they do.

I would not worry though... pretty soon we will have an engineered breed of hemp that is THC deficient.

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Post    Posted on: Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:17 am
Pretty soon?

Industrial hemp has been around for years. It has less then 0.01 percent THC. you could smoke pounds of it and never get close to high. It's Legal in Canada. One native american tribe tried to grow it, but john ashcroft (not capitalized due to lack of respect) sent in the DEA to destroy the entire crop. Soveriegn nation my ass. I guess he'd rather they built a casino to bring themselves out of poverty.

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Post    Posted on: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:02 pm
RBFFFF wrote:
Pretty soon?

Industrial hemp has been around for years. It has less then 0.01 percent THC. you could smoke pounds of it and never get close to high.


Damn. I was not aware of that. I wonder how to go about getting the stuff legalized. Obviously it's at least partially a publicity problem, if not almost completely so. Would be hard, but nowhere near impossible.

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Post    Posted on: Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:12 am
It's largely because of publicity. Only in Hawaii is the only US state that grows a plot of industrial hemp. They are the source of a wealth of information about the possibilities of hemp energy. In Canada Industrial hemp is legal, but it is mostly used for textiles and paper, with a few companies making building materials.

The main argument against industrial hemp is that growers could hide real cannabis in the fields. One problem growers would have is genetic hybridization. Each batch of seeds would be contaminated by industrial hemp pollen, within 2-3 generations the crop would be worthless as a drug. Seedless high potency Cannabis would risk the same contaminations if not grown in an enclosed environment, and industrial hemp is widespread. All these factors increase cost, and contribute to importation of product from outside.

But what if industrial cannabis is grown on a world wide scale? Cannabis for smoke and cooking contains the widest range of tastes and smells found anywhere in nature. The plants diversity of flavors can emulate any fruit after enough generations of selective breeding and an appropriate Gene Pool. Pine, grapefruit, mango, blueberry, skunk, sage, cat piss, hog's breath, juicy fruit, Strawberry cough................it can go on for days. There are literally thousands of varieties, as diverse as breeds of dog or cat.

This genetic diversity is threatened with the globalyzation of industrial hemp. Yet stoners around the globe actively support industrial hemp. To risk one's love for the good of the world is a big thing to ask, But I wouldn't care if Sensemillia costs 900 dollars an ounce, I'd figure it a tax I'd love to pay if the world can kick the petrollium habit.

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Post    Posted on: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:41 pm
Back to the subject.

How about building Cloud 9 entirely out of hemp? Hemp laminate materials supplemented with carbon fiber reinforcement (which can also be produced from industrial hemp http://www.ornl.gov/~webworks/cppr/y2002/pres/112574.pdf) could create a flexible strong structure. Because of the geometry of the sphere, the structural strength increases with the size of the sphere. To further cut costs the framework could use pentagons and hexagons as the basic structural shape, rather than triangles. Isochanvre concrete is made from hemp hurds (raw cellulose waste when fibers are removed) and lime. It's fire resistant and light weight. This versital concrete can be used to pave the flight deck.

Before you ask, Isochanvre is not a new process. It is a rediscovered french building material that may have originated in the Mirovingian dynasty in southern france. Archeologists have found a Isochanvre bridge dating back to the Mirovingian period (500-751 A.D.)

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Post    Posted on: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:45 pm
BTW here's an online book about the history of Standard Oil. It doesn't bring up pyrolytic fuels, but a good read anyway.
http://www.history.rochester.edu/fuels/tarbell/MAIN.HTM

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