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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:41 pm Heavy Lift missions http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... =5&start=1 Misc. http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=18247 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 6&posts=84 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... sp?tid=877 http://www.topgear.com/content/features ... /03/1.html http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 11&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... =1&start=1 http://simcosmos.planetaclix.pt/ http://www.makeyev.ru/english/start.htm http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... start=1/// http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... &start=871 http://www.spacevideo.ru/films/4/f4_3_en.htm http://www.admiralmodel.com/ru/gallery- ... /odyssey2/ Last edited by publiusr on Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:42 pm Heavy Lift Headlines Ares V and family http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/const ... index.html http://www.vision-play.com/products/gam ... view3.html http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17522 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... entid=8688 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=16806 Ares IV http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17512 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=16969 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17289 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=16971 http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... light.html Longfellow http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17524 Direct alternatives http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... start=1381 The kerolox option http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 23&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17519 From the web: "In the late 90's I wrote an article for a magazine talking about heavy lift, Shuttle-derived boosters. Back then, the RS-84 was still on the table. " http://www.astronautix.com/engines/rs84.htm "I imagined keeping the 8.4m E.T. tooling and using 4x RS-84 on this corestage with the relevant change in tank sizes to accomodate the Kero-Lox fuel ratios. The upper stage would have been a single SSME and 2x standard 4-Segment SRBs would be used. " "The standard crawlers would have taken these boosters quite well and less launchpad mods than Ares V would be needed. " "Today, we know that J-2X would be used on the upper stage and 2x RD-171 +plus 1x RD-180 would fit on the bottom of the corestage. This booster would lift about 130 metric tons to LEO. (Borrowing from Direct): With a stretched corestage and 5-Segment SRBs, the payload figures would exceed 140 tons. Then, you've various upgrade paths that include changing the solids to Kero/Lox strap-ons (2 OR 4x) etc. Starts to look and sound more like the Evolved Atlas concepts, doesn't it?" http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/12480.jpg Solids: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=14774 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=14781 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=14827 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=14827 HLLVs http://24.73.239.154:8081/lcm/Rockets2.jpg upper stages? http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... entid=9573 http://www.flickr.com/photos/simcosmos/160787411/ http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 27&start=1 The PARIS HLLVs http://cleanslatesociety.50megs.com/PARIS.html http://www.newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5220 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/Discuss ... p31.htm#31 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 21&start=1 Sea Dragon update http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 21&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... =7&start=1 Orion to Mars video http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 24&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 6&posts=30 Misc. http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5007 http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5008 Russiaspace http://www.spacevideo.ru/index_en.html http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5018 I wonder when http://www.k26.com/buran will be updated... http://www.maxuta.com/mode.2810-id.3010 Shuttle II http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 48&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17665 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 12&start=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8xDpVUj5SQ&NR http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... &start=121 http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5012 http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5013 Solids and more: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17724 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17661 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 21&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17602 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17598 http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searc ... /trailera/ http://www.spacevideo.ru/update/update_en.html http://simcosmos.planetaclix.pt/ Book http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... opediaastr
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:39 am Ares I and Aborts http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 49&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 6&posts=18 Direct http://www.thespacereview.com/article/814/1 http://www.up-ship.com/Book/preview.htm Funny stuff and cool links http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ocket.html http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... 0882387819 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYKfQYxXxvc&NR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb6LWk1-tDc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tREXkjRyC0s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HSYC6Wl ... ed&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5RqAREb ... ed&search= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9x6rDl63P4 http://batmobilehistory.com/index.html
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:21 pm For what it's worth--some folks want to build a real flying saucer--of sorts: http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?i ... 1e96058b5f I don't know as I'd ride in it... There was a design for an HLLV saucer, however... http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/roost.htm Misc. http://www.spacestationsim.com http://www.aer.bris.ac.uk/publications/space.html New engines http://www.gatech.edu/news-room/release.php?id=1281 More debris... http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... 6&posts=17 JSC's cool retro space concept site. http://www1.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/exhibit.html Asteroid laser http://www.al.com/news/huntsvilletimes/ ... xml&coll=1 Fusion/clean energy http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 6673788606 http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/03 ... _for_.html Ares I escape tower designs http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... ntid=17502 New lander info http://www.aiaa-houston.org/cy0607/even ... -20-07.pdf Tornado in Enterprise Alabama http://attackmachine.proboards56.com/in ... 1172846755 Test: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... first.html
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:22 pm Misc. http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?N=0&Ntk ... l&Ntt=MLLV http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=360&id=1051 http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=322&lupubid=25 http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=166 www.cgpublishing.com http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Chi ... s_999.html http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/ap ... ocket.html
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:57 pm Ares V gets eyes? http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/const ... copes.html http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums ... =2&start=1 http://www.physorg.com/news102086141.html http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Think ... s_999.html The ultimate: http://www.tsgc.utexas.edu/archive/design/foci/
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:09 pm The ultimate in Heavy Lift--Orion http://youtube.com/watch?v=V1vKMTYa40A Other nuclear options http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8605&posts=16&start=1 STARSHIPS!! http://www.aiaa-houston.org/newsletter/jan07/jan07.pdf Starships http://www.andrews-space.com/images/videos/PAPERS/Pub-InterstellarTransportation(200307).pdf http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7657&posts=131&start=1 super-earth http://obswww.unige.ch/~udry/udry_preprint.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_Venus_Flyby http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/getfile.asp?file=Video_K-1-CONOPS.wmv Interplanetary Mission baselines http://www.nasa-academy.org/soffen/travelgrant/bethke.pdf http://www.aiaa-houston.org/horizons Big Gemini NeXt http://www.frassanito.com/work/exploration/exploration_big01.jpg http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8492&posts=14&start=1 Good for Shuttle C? http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?N=0&Ntk=all&Ntx=mode%20matchall&Ntt=Shuttle-C This was Mike Griffins old Direct Ascent concept http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/get-attachment-big.asp?action=view&attachmentid=25350 Winged Apollo concepts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/space-modelers/files/Apollo%20-%20X-15%20Shuttlecraft/ Bookstores, Burans-- http://www.astrobooks.com/ http://www.cgpublishing.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buran-modeling/files/ http://www.lindenhillimports.com/amodel.htm --and Moon base: http://www.draaisma.net/space-tourism/moon_base_landing.php http://thespacereview.com/article/882/1 Other uses for Heavy Lift---Space Based Solar Power (SPS) http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/06/post.html#comment-77479116 http://spacesolarpower.wordpress.com/the-national-security-space-office-study/ http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/06/post.html http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/070725_techwed_pentagon_spacepower.html Here is the group behind this SPS study http://www.acq.osd.mil/nsso/ email nsso.pnt@osd.mil Origami might help in folding of SPS...and the new radio telescope proposed for Ares V might be a good frame Other Space telescopes: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070613_tw_gamma_burst.html http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/ares/space_telescopes.html http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8708&posts=2&start=1 http://www.physorg.com/news102086141.html http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Thinking_Big_About_Space_Telescopes_999.html http://www.tsgc.utexas.edu/archive/design/foci/html Heavy Lift links: Saturn V http://spacemodels.homepage.dk/saturnv/SLA/SLA.htm http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/AGirRuJbuCrm1Y4lJR2UD6n7HhwJJ18VX2ILk1tWQwhG4wfCQWGSo5rJIeNbSsW3-9bllEVkxsWw1OWSHDJ8D4PuPSM3lZQCCzY/saturn%20v%20varients.pdf Ares Vhttp://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4654&start=120 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5086&posts=121#M158213 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7589&posts=73&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7682&posts=37&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7775&posts=5&start=1 http://www.safesimplesoon.com/AresV-config.htm http://www.safesimplesoon.com/mythbusters2.htm http://www.directlauncher.com/ http://www.launchcomplexmodels.com/Public/DIRECT/DIRECT-II_Family.jpg http://www.launchcomplexmodels.com/Public/DIRECT/Direct_v2_Infrastructure.jpg http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5016&start=1681 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7868&start=1 Other boosters http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4221/ch8.htm http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4221/p354.htm http://history.nasa.gov/MHR-5/part-7.htm ALS/NLS http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/get-attachment-big.asp?action=view&attachmentid=21084 Mega Lift: http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5215&start=20 http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?N=0&Ntk=all&Ntx=mode%20matchall&Ntt=MLLV http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=360&id=1051 http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=322&lupubid=25 http://www.aiaa.org/content.cfm?pageid=166 Ares I, and a strange? http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6579&posts=19&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7011&start=31 Orion--the capsule. http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7872&start=46&posts=59 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7842&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6795&start=31&posts=36 Tests in the desert http://spacecraft.ssl.umd.edu/SSL.photos/SSLevent.photos/2004/040915.AZtests/040915.index.html Russian tech: Soyuz to the moon... http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/070628_private_moonshot.html Soviet launch system--Dnepr and Proton http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8604&posts=2&start=1 http://www.space-travel.com/reports/SES_Signs_For_Five_Launches_with_ILS_For_Protons_Through_2013_999.html Rockets for sale? http://www.eprimeaerospace.com/vehicles.htm Kliper.. http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=638&start=16&posts=24 Another Soviet system http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7173&posts=6&start=1 Private MOL? http://excaliburalmazobserver.blogspot.com/2007/05/top-door-bottom-door-side-door.html China's turn http://www.space-travel.com/reports/China_To_Increase_Payload_Capacity_Of_Carrier_Rockets_999.html http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/ap_070618_china_rocket.html http://www.thespacereview.com/article/808/1 ATK and more Solids under control: http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Aerojet_Demonstrates_Key_Advances_In_Controllable_Solid_Propulsion_Rocket_Motors_999.html Train crash of the SRB: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7770&posts=37&start=1 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7755&posts=102&start=1 http://blog.al.com/breaking/2007/05/damage_from_space_center_fire.html http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/get-attachment-big.asp?action=view&attachmentid=20882 http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/get-attachment-big.asp?action=view&attachmentid=20881 http://astronautique.actifforum.com/ http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fastronautique.actifforum.com%2F&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools Interesting space and tech news: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/01/magazine/01nasa-t.html?hp http://www.space.com/entertainment/070506_spaceweek_tv.html http://www.physorg.com/news88439430.html One photon storage Electrogravitics again http://www.hpcc-space.de/publications/documents/LauncherSymPaper2007-0-42JHCorrected22April.pdf But Casimir has been reversed... A "fun report"... http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8065&start=1 Tornado Damage from space http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/wisc_tornado.html http://www.spacemart.com/reports/Plastic_That_Grows_On_Trees_999.html http://www.spacemart.com/reports/Hydrogen_Breakthrough_Could_Open_The_Road_To_Carbon_Free_Cars_999.html http://www.spacemart.com/reports/Scientists_Demonstrate_High_Performing_Room_Temperature_Nanolaser_999.html http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070623_mars_terraform.html http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070620_hubble_ceresvesta.html Space X has made Nasaspaceflight! http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7520&posts=4&start=1 North Pole's next visitors http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/New_Russian_Tanker_Company_To_Develop_Arctic_999.html If Dubai can build this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AlBurjPanorama.jpg --They can afford heavy lift
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campbelp2002 Moon Mission Member Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:38 pm Posts: 1361 Location: Austin, Texas	Posted on: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:13 am publiusr wrote: If Dubai can build this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AlBurjPanorama.jpg --They can afford heavy lift That link is broken. But I agree with the implication of the "they can afford" phrase, which is that heavy lift is expensive.
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:48 pm Less so than medium lift--five RS-68s per 130 tons is less than 18 of them on six Delta IVs with six upper stages, pad delays, etc. Energiya book out--model too. http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/ ... m-t2.shtml http://www.praxis-publishing.co.uk/view ... earch=home http://fpmail.friends-partners.org/pipe ... 23763.html
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idiom Moderator Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:01 am Posts: 750 Location: New Zealand	Posted on: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:39 am You sure are a busy Lad there Pub... I will see if I can't find you some more links _________________ What goes up better doggone well stay up! - Morgan Gravitronics, Company Slogan.
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Mon May 19, 2008 9:17 pm Thank you. Here is a link or two that might interest you More trouble from the fighter jocks http://spacefellowship.com/Forum/viewto ... 0970#30970 Other reasons for heavy lift... http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bits ... 8-03_A.pdf Cool models of Energiya Buran http://www.anigrand.com/catalog_space-1.htm More here http://www.starshipmodeler.net/talk/vie ... 4&start=30 http://www.russianspaceweb.com/los.html "To top it off, Khrunichev drafted a family of giant rockets, with a cargo capacity to low-earth orbit ranging from 45 tons to an incredible 175 tons!" Other http://www.russianspaceweb.com/ard.html#agreement
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publiusr Space Station Commander Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 am Posts: 887	Posted on: Tue May 20, 2008 12:05 am Big telescopes revisited--for Ares V http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2008/0 ... -5-rocket/ New report http://www.livescience.com/blogs/2008/0 ... e-science/ Science Opportunities Enabled by NASAâ€™s Constellation System, is a product of the National Research Councilâ€™s Space Studies Board, written by a blue ribbon panel of experts. http://www7.nationalacademies.org/ssb/c ... 8_NASA.pdf http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12201 http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?recor ... 201&page=5 http://www.astrobiology.net/archives/20 ... rc_on.html http://www8.nationalacademies.org/cp/me ... eetingNo=1 http://www8.nationalacademies.org/cp/pr ... ?key=48895 I tried to leave a comment on Leonard Davids blog as shown at the top of this post--was logged in--registered--and none of my comments (just links to JPLs Ares V-positive report) were accepted. Uh-huh... More http://search.live.com/results.aspx?src ... ion+System http://www.dogpile.com/dogpile/ws/resul ... ceUrl=true This report is one I would be quoting. http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bits ... 8-03_A.pdf At least we know that one wasn't cobbled together by Hack Delta II payload junkies who would sooner lie than admit Ares V's superiority. ***************************************** Ares I news http://www.space.com/news/080515-nasa-ares-delays.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Misc. http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Space ... m_999.html http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Tur ... y_999.html http://www.space-travel.com/reports/Rus ... t_999.html http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Solar ... e_999.html http://www.space.com/businesstechnology ... lator.html http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... pacts.html Weird http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0 ... holes.html "satellites were dragged by about 6 feet (2 meters) every year because our world's gravity, combined with its spin, mucks with the cosmic fabric." From the nut files http://www.space.com/news/ap-080514-british-ufo.html http://www.space.com/news/ap-080513-vatican-aliens.html
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