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Rockets vs. Airbreathers

Posted by: spacecowboy - Thu May 26, 2005 12:44 pm
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Moon Mission Member
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Post    Posted on: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:51 pm
I thought that NSA handled all SIGINT/ELINT work? But then again, the CIA, DIA, various military intelligence groups, and apparently the National Reconnaissance Office do, too.

Good Lord above, the so-called U.S. Intelligence Community has FIFTEEN member organizations. Did I mention redundancy?

Okay, off my soapbox now. Back to the topic at hand (whatever that was)...

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Post    Posted on: Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:33 pm
It's all messed up. I'd rather do my own taxes than figure out who does what and where.


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Post    Posted on: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:55 pm
Here are some interesting links:

A nice Energiya/Buran stack

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dtomko1962/my_photos

Space Bombers--look familiar?
http://www.up-ship.com/Book/bomproj.htm

Misc. News from Yahoo

>From: "BP" <spacecraftengr@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: space-modelers@yahoogroups.com
>To: space-modelers@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [space-modelers] OT: Space X at Vandy (was- Re: Bill Hartensteins STS-114 photos)
>Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:29:35 -0000
>
>That'd be true if only it was....
>Official representative of Space X, contacts on the Western
>Range that I interface with as part of my position on the same
>Range, have told me what they are doing or not doing. The fact
>that a launch of the Falcon 1 from SLC-3W would overfly SLC4
>with the final Titan IV awaiting launch- that Titan being a vehicle
>that with a combined vehicle and spacecraft cost far exceeds the
>value of the unflown, untested Falcon 1, a vehicle that among
>other things has no range safety destruct device designed into it,
>and which is also a vehicle that would overfly the SLC-6 Delta IV
>facility (with it's vehicle stacked and awaiting launch), has driven
>the Space X founder to move to Kwaj, and help alleviate his
>apparent inability to understand or accept launch range priorities
>and regulations of the USAF for not wanting to bend the rules
>just for him.
The same company reps have been stating they will
>be staying put at the Pacific Island locale, at least for the Falcon
>1 series. The advanced Falcons may actually take off from the
>Titan facilities, but that remainds to be decided. Any further
>discussion of this matter belongs on the Space Modelers EVA
>site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/space-modelers_eva/
>

ACK! What a fancy way for the Air Force to base interceptor drone target launchers in the Pacific--which of course is what they really wanted in the first place. Let Musk do the work--bankrupt him with ULA and safety interests--and take over his production line when he is forced to sell it for cheap. Then build in house with AF folks already on payroll. At least the blue-suiters are in trouble with Congress--which you know if you watched CSPAN-2 last week.

And you thought NASA was your enemy.

ETC.

> > Subject: [space-modelers] Re: Bill Hartensteins STS-114
>pre-launch attempt #1 photos
> >
> >
> > September's a busy month for both coast launch sites. Been a
> > lot of slips out in Vandyland, though we finally got a Minuteman
>III
> > ("SERV I") out of here this week. (And Space X' Falcon I taking a
> > powder, moving their launch site to Kwaj has helped [good
> > riddance too...]). If things go per this week's firming of the
> > schedule for the rest of the Calendar year, Vandy should see a
> > Delta II, the 1st Delta IV and possibly 2nd and the final Titan IV
>all go uphill out of here. Busy.


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Post    Posted on: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:50 pm
A bit OT, but check out this site:
CEV
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=493&start=61
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=493&start=71

Also has good links on rockets


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Post    Posted on: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:47 pm
The article "British Space Plane Concept Gets Boost" ( www.space.com/businesstechnology/090311 ... plane.html ) is reporting about an engine that can work in air breathing mode as well as in rockt mode.

Might that overcome the need to do achoice or selection?



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