Halo fuel

Terraformer · Posted on: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:03 pm

Halo stands for Hydrogen Aluminum Oxygen, by the way, which gave the acronym HAlO.

NewMars thread about it
Moon Miners Manifesto

It has greater Isp than Hydrogen, greater density than even Propane/H2O2, and thrust second only to the Shuttle SRBs. It's still cryogenic, but as the amount of Hydrogen is lower, it is easier to store. Cost is likely to be on the order of $2-3/kg, but buying in bulk would reduce this somewhat, and besides, it would still allow spaceflight below $100/kg.

Thoughts? If you follow the NewMars link, jumpboy11j has done some size comparisons between Ares V and Ares V-H (Halo). Same payload, but we can ditch the SRBs and first stage.

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Terraformer Space Station Member Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:16 pm Posts: 327	Halo fuel Posted on: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:42 pm Halo stands for Hydrogen Aluminum Oxygen, by the way, which gave the acronym HAlO. NewMars thread about it Moon Miners Manifesto It has greater Isp than Hydrogen, greater density than even Propane/H2O2, and thrust second only to the Shuttle SRBs. It's still cryogenic, but as the amount of Hydrogen is lower, it is easier to store. Cost is likely to be on the order of $2-3/kg, but buying in bulk would reduce this somewhat, and besides, it would still allow spaceflight below $100/kg. Thoughts? If you follow the NewMars link, jumpboy11j has done some size comparisons between Ares V and Ares V-H (Halo). Same payload, but we can ditch the SRBs and first stage.
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Terraformer Space Station Member Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:16 pm Posts: 327	Re: Halo fuel Posted on: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:03 pm Althout we're having trouble calculating the density...
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TerraMrs Space Station Commander Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:22 pm Posts: 843 Location: New York, NY	Re: Halo fuel Posted on: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:50 pm look up HEDM, and check out some of the crazy fuels that are being proposed. dodecahedral nitrogen, metallic hydrogen, etc... that stuff is awesome. some of the ISPs possible with this stuff approach the ~800isp of nuclear thermal engines. of course, these materials exist only in small amounts in special laboratories now, but who's to say they won't be mass-producible in 5-10 years. _________________ Cornell 2010- Applied and Engineering Physics Software Developer Also, check out my fractals
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Terraformer Space Station Member Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:16 pm Posts: 327	Re: Halo fuel Posted on: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:55 pm Straight HAlO fuel seems to be out, but I'm not sure about AlH3/O2 rockets.
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