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Moon Mission Member  
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 Entertainment: Nasa, back to the moon Posted on: Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:41 am_________________ Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. - Lord Kelvin, 1892 |
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Space Walker  
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Posted on: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:58 am Thats classic Sigurd!
Defiently a good laugh! Iain |
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Moon Mission Member 
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Posted on: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:12 pm Aww, now that was just cheap.
Great one, Siggy! _________________ American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Daniel Guggenheim School of Aerospace Engineering In Memoriam... Apollo I - Soyuz I - Soyuz XI - STS-51L - STS-107 |
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Space Station Commander 
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Posted on: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:41 pm Good stuff.
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Moon Mission Member
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Posted on: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:17 pm So: a tile just falls off, they "fix" it (no word on what brand of duct tape used) and now a fuel level sensor dies. I really truly hate to make a joke out of this -- it's damned dangerous; a widowmaker -- but it's getting hard not to.
_________________ American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Daniel Guggenheim School of Aerospace Engineering In Memoriam... Apollo I - Soyuz I - Soyuz XI - STS-51L - STS-107 |
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Moon Mission Member 
Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:38 pm
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Posted on: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:48 pm A tile did not just fall off. According to http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3262782
Quote: The lightweight plastic cover on one of Discovery's cockpit windows came loose while the spaceship was on the launch pad, falling more than 60 feet and striking a bulge in the fuselage, said Stephanie Stilson, the NASA manager in charge of Discovery's launch preparations. No one knows why the cover — held in place with tape and weighing less than 2 pounds — fell off, she said. The covers are used prior to launch to protect the shuttle's windows, then removed before liftoff. Two tiles on an aluminum panel were damaged, and the entire panel was replaced with a spare in what Stilson said was a minor repair job. |
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Moon Mission Member
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Posted on: Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:17 pm Okay, correction: so the tile didn't just fall off. Something else just fell off and busted two tiles. And my other point still holds: no word on the brand of tape used in the original incident or in the repairs.
_________________ American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Daniel Guggenheim School of Aerospace Engineering In Memoriam... Apollo I - Soyuz I - Soyuz XI - STS-51L - STS-107 |
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Moon Mission Member
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Posted on: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:40 pm NASA Logbook: (fiction)
engeneer12: Hey Boss... Do we reall need to go on July 13 ? Boss: Yes engeneer12: But you know we're not ready.. the feul tank isn't done, the cockpit windows are still full of lightweight plastic .. Boss: Yes I know engeneer12: But... we can't go to space on that way.... we can never succeed with our deadline... Boss: Exactly engeneer12: Exactly ? Boss: On this way we succeeded with our deadline on papers, and those malfunctions gives us extra time, and we can blame someone else. engeneer12: Owww, okay..... oke boss. Boss: It's all about keeping people happy in washington.. do you think we really care about space ? I'm happy with the money I get.. for my family., how slower all things go.. how longer I'll get paid to do this job. Oh well.. it's not really accurate.. there has to be more  what will be the next so called accidental "abort" reason ?  _________________ Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. - Lord Kelvin, 1892 |
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Space Station Commander 
Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:22 pm
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Posted on: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:19 am oh man that was cold. good job siggy.
_________________ Cornell 2010- Applied and Engineering Physics Software Developer Also, check out my fractals |
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Moon Mission Member
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Posted on: Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:36 am Just found an other movie.. bus I think some organisations won't like it...
http://www.nata2.info/humor/movies/zero_g_cat.mov _________________ Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. - Lord Kelvin, 1892 |
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Space Station Member 
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Posted on: Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:00 am I rather liked official NASA information about the sensor anomaly. This sensor warns that the LH2 fuel flow is about to cease, and LH2 is the “lubricant” in the very high speed turbopumps. If the pumps run dry “uncontained damage” is likely to occur. Replay “Challenger” video for an illustration of this term.
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Moon Mission Member
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Posted on: Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:30 pm Ooh! Cato!
_________________ American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics Daniel Guggenheim School of Aerospace Engineering In Memoriam... Apollo I - Soyuz I - Soyuz XI - STS-51L - STS-107 |
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Space Station Commander
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Posted on: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:59 pm They had three other sensors. Delta IV also had a similar problem. If I didn't know better I'd suspect some pro-EELV anti-shuttle types in Boeing/LockMart of doing some non-lethal sabotage to undermine Griffin.
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Moon Mission Member 
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Posted on: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:13 pm publiusr wrote: They had three other sensors. Delta IV also had a similar problem. If I didn't know better I'd suspect some pro-EELV anti-shuttle types in Boeing/LockMart of doing some non-lethal sabotage to undermine Griffin. I think that is a bit of a stretch, this wouldn't even be considered a problem prior to the Columbia disaster when it was policy to fly if only 3 gauges were working. The requirement for all 4 to work has been imposed as part of the new safety regime. The shuttle only requires 2 to be working to stop a premature engine shut down by the on-board computer. I wonder how many previous launchess only had 3 sensors working? If the engines shut down to early then the shuttle might not make it to orbit but the SRBs should get it high enough for it to be able to glide back. I think that NASA are being a little too cautious but thats easy to say when I'm not the one riding it and its not my space program that might get permanently canned if there is another failure. _________________ A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. |
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Space Station Commander
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Posted on: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:20 pm I agree with you. Griffin said that he'd quit if there was a failure (they took him to task over the word 'goof' which I thought to be nitpicking).
He also said he'd quit at the end of Bush's term. I hope not. He needs to stay as long as Goldin to straighten things out properly. |
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